Science Fail

Trollscience: Evolution

2010-12-03T09:47:00.003-06:00

Oh, and for anyone interested, here is the full size image (when clicked) of the skull fossils.

It has been requested that I try to resume work on this blog some. Well, my first post back is a little art project. Click to enlarge.

Marksman's Train Wreck of a Fail

2010-07-13T12:34:00.002-05:00

The one, the only, Marksman11: "Here you go redefining terms again. Living means living, and the Law of Biogenesis never mentions the word "biological".

Definitions of Law of biogenesis on the Web:

Biogenesis is the process of lifeforms producing other lifeforms, e.g. a spider lays eggs, which develop into spiders. It may also refer to biochemical processes of production in living organisms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_biogenesis

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:Law+of+biogenesis&sa=X&ei=Dy47TKLnNoWBlAfTue3SBw&ved=0CBIQkAE

Show me in that definition the word "biological". It isn't there. That is just more of you're made up BS.

FUCKIN TATOOS, HOW DO THEY WORK?

2010-06-22T12:03:00.001-05:00

From Pharyngula:

Bob Enyart (regarding sexual selection)-"If tattoos become really popular so that women are attracted to men who have tattoos, how long will that be the fad before kids start being born with tattoos? When is that going to happen? How stupid could Darwin be and all the world full of evolutionists?"

Not science, but definitely FAIL

2010-02-18T15:13:00.003-06:00

SMalice: "Opinions don't really have to be rational, they are opinions and do not have to be substantiated by evidence. To try and do so is a waste of time."

Ultra Exclusive Marksman Fail, Installment I

2010-02-15T16:38:00.006-06:00

This is the first of what will be at least several installments. It is the documented history of Marksman11's FAIL on an Topix thread about Evolution. Let's start with a quote by Marksman11:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p1217#c24590

"This is not, and never has been about my beliefs."

Why is this quote so important? Well, if you notice the color, it is the first of our color coded FAILS for Marksman11. Other FAIL categories include:

Ranting and raving

Classic Logical Fallacy

Atheist/Liberal/Humanist Conspiracy

O RLY???

Good Old Fashioned Fail/That's not how science works

My comments will appear like this.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p41#c821

Some I have read argue about creationism in the science class. Christians don't want creation in science class because it isn't science, JUST LIKE HUMANS EVOLVING FROM SOMETHING THAT WAS NON-HUMAN ISN'T SCIENCE. We don't want creationism in, we want darwinism out.
One poster said they didn't evolve from an ape, which was answered that evolving from an ape is more likely than coming from dirt. My reply to that person is, when we die, what happens to our body? Does it turn into an ape? Or return to dirt? That's right, we turn to dirt, so why is it such a strech to believe that is where we came from in the first place?
To believe that humans evolved from non-humans violates the law of entropy. Put a steel "I" beam in your driveway. Over years what happens? Does it violate this law and become an automoble, or does it devolve into a pile of rust? So why do you think that biological systems can constantly violate this law? It doesn't.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p48#c953

Creationists claims do NOT run counter to all science. It algines perfectly with observable and testable science, which is the only REAL science there is. You have zero evidence to support abiogenesis. You've NOT observed where humans evolved from non-humans, you've NOT observed the origin of life, and you've NOT observed the BIG BANG.....NONE OF IT!!!! All you, in all of your gullibility, have done is fall for the loony philosophies of liberal humanists.
Oh, and for the record, Gobal Warming is just as silly.!!!! More liberal scare tactics.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p53#c1059

Are you on drugs? I didn't make the positive claim, YOU DID!!! I didn't make the positive statement that the supernatural DOESN'T EXIST....YOU DID!! But it is obvious you can't answer my request to back your statement.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p54#c1079

No one is saying things don't evolve or change. The debate is how much. My point is there is no observable or testable evidence that humans evolved from non-humans. As far as fossils and DNA? Fossils prove that something lived, is now dead, and left evidence that it once existed. It doesn't support Darwinism. Explain how nature produced DNA and RNA without a designer. Please explain how nature can produce this extreme complexity. You can drop the insults. They don't support your stance

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p55#c1102

I'm not impressed. Read it again,I didn't say "evolution", I said Darwinism. There is a huge difference. Evolution is observable, the theory that humans evolved from non-humans is not.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p55#c1107

Then the theory that humans evolved from non-humans must be removed. That is not science. It is humanistic philosophy, and evolution is one of the main tenats of the humanist manifesto, of which humanism was established as a religion in the early 60's. That is the religion that needs to be removed.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p57#c1151

Apes, why is it that the evidence for the history of man only goes back 6000 years?

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p58#c1158

You don't have to like it, but the USSC declared humanism as a religion in 1961. Humans can tithe and have their own buildings and let their contributes be deducted from their taxes. That makes them a religion. Their scriptures are the Humanist Manifesto, and their sanctuary is the science classroom spreading their drival that humans evolved from non-humans. Also, you supported me in that when these court cases come up, the ACLU lawyers try to make a church/state issue of it rather than presenting this observable and testable evidence you claim exists, but don't present.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p61#c1229

If you want a reply from me, drop the insults or I'll drop your posts like I drop a liberal in a voting booth.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p72#c1454

Then why do most of you guys teach the prebiotic soup deal? The bible says that GOD created man, and that isn't evolution, so if you are saying GOD did not create man "ex-nihilo" then I'm going to look at the scientific evidence that backs your conclusion. So Far, I've found your conclusion lacking observable evidence. Plus, if evolution produced man, where was the fall? It is obvious that there is evil in the world.....right?

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p78#c1559

We give you hospitals, you give us AIDS, we give you orphanages, you give us abortion, we give you world class universities, you give us communists, we give you homeless shelters, you give us the gay agenda, we give you missionaries, you give us genecide, we give you the founding fathers and the constitution, you give the humanist manifesto.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p80#c1597

It is obvious that you didn't read the post I was replying too. It's also obvious that you don't get the fact that most atheists are political liberals. You know why their are few atheists groups? There's not enough of you to start one!!!

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p80#c1598

Oh how quick you forget atheistic communism and the millions murdered by its dictators.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p83#c1675

Misguided people like you have murdered millions more than a few misguided christians. Search communistic murders. See if communist dictators aren't atheists. Educate yourself.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p85#c1714

You're on drugs. Biologists have to have zero alegence to darwinism. We could completely annul Darwinism and proclaim creationism as valid, and it would have absolutely no effect on current or future research.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p99#c1994

But goober, you just made the creationists case. That is exactly what the bible says you'll get. They reproduce "after their own kind". Evolution, AND YOU, say that eventually you will get something other than an oak. You also just proved biogenesis. Let's see you make an oak without an acorn,(a previous life). Now which takes more faith? That this acorn will produce an oak? Or according to your dogma, something other than an oak?
You're the best player we got!!!!

Wait until you see what is coming!

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p1190#c24050

"oak" is not a tree. Oak is a type of wood.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p103#c2078

If that were true, then we now have a reason to put creationism into the classroom as the motor behind the origin of life. Evolution can't answer this question scientifically, panspermia just relocates that same lack of evidence. So creationism is the philosophy that is left.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p115#c2310

Because the long term result of mutations is the degradation, deterioration, or degeneration of the genome. Not it's improvement.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p121#c2441

Biological limits. Most mutations injure or kill a system. They are designed to do that. You claim we have a common ancestor with apes, but you have no idea what this common ancestor was, or what the animal looked like that it evolved from. Just wild guesses.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p121#c2446

Asked, "Are chimps 2% deteriorated because their DNA differs by 2% from humans?"

No because they were CREATED with this 2% differnce. It wasn't an act of evolution as you wished it was.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p122#c2459

It's very simple. GOD wanted apes to exist just like he wanted trap door spiders to exist. It's just that simple. GOD did it because he wanted too.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p126#c2539

Make it up? Scientists don't all even agree with each other. Work of the devil? I dunno. More like the work of GODless humanists falsely thinking they've found a loophole to avoid being accountable to GOD. They've failed.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p126#c2542

Sure it has. It's micro. No one has ever denied that and it is irrelevant to the debate at hand. It has nothing to do with humans evolving from non-humans. Your gulls are still gulls, and your mud skippers are still mud skippers. Been there....no big deal. Irrelevant.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p127#c2563

you've not shown GOD didn't do it!!!!!

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p131#c2631

There are no neutral observers. People base opinions on exposure to the evidence. If one looks at the evidence, lack of evidence, Piltdown Man, corrupt politics and how liberal thinking is trying to control education and how people think, the brainwashing of man made global warming, employ critical thinking skills and a common sense approch to the things we see around us,and the hostile approch humanism and atheism has taken towards religion, especially christianity....etc, then after looking at all of that, then #1 is more rational.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p131#c2633

Something that is falsifiable is adhering to the scientific method. Matters of faith in the supernatural can't be measured by science. Science can't deal with the supernatural, thus annulling the need for falsibility.

This is a good one to remember for later...

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p133#c2689

Science can achieve a lot, but it'll never answer the questions you really want answered. Will you live on after you die? If so, where? Will I be accountable to anyone? Is my location after my death dependent on my decisions? If so, how? Where did life originate, and how? Did GOD do it? Science has no idea how life originated, so how did it happen? Science can not answer any of these questions. If you state otherwise, then your statement above..."This is why science will always trump belief in my eyes." is untrue.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p134#c2696

But does the bible say that the words therein are GOD breathed, and inspired? Yes it does. Also, you are limiting GOD again by thinking that it is not possible for GOD to inspire men and have his written word produced in this way. Why is it that you can't hardly walk into a room or building on the planet where somewhere there is not a bible? Of course there are exceptions, but that's usually because of Governmental control. It, BY FAR is the most published book in history with billions being published. Again, why all this? Because everyone thinks it contains myths? Because it is so contradictory? Do you not realise that if you study it, that every claimed contradiction has been refuted years ago? How has it servived for over 2000 years, with critics ripping and tearing at every side, yet it not only servives, but thrives? I'll tell you, I believe it's because GOD wants it to servive. I displayed how Eze. prophocied how Israel would be reborn on May 15th. 1948 from 536 b.c. Nobody could refute it. Just smuggly discard it out of ignorance. In your own words. Don't limit GOD in any way.
Also, by GODS own style, you should see that inspiring men to write the bible is being true to the way he works. He didn't build the ark, he had Noah do it. He didn't build the temple, he had Solomon do it. He didn't build the arc of the covenant, he had Jewish craftsman do it. So why not expect men to have written the bible, as in everything else, according to his instructions?

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p134#c2697

I'm here not to answer your questions, but replying to objections to my LTE in the paper. I'm not here to defend my beliefs. I take my beliefs in faith. I'm here saying YOUR beliefs don't have the scientific evidence needed to be a valid theory. And they don't. Your belief that humans evolved from non-humans is not science but humanistic philosophy.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p134#c2699

2 questions.1... Was it unlawful to have sex with a family member prior to there being a law that says so? The law of Moses didn't come until many genrations later. 2....According to entropy, would the gene pool been more pure, allowing the mixing of these gene pools without the birth defects? Besides, Noahs sons had wives that were not of their family, so there never was a complete mixture of families. Cousins in a pure gene pool is as close as you could ever get.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p134#c2703

It's all word games and labels my friend. Some people define macro as some other animal morphing into some other animal over long periods of time. Others define it as 2 almost similar animals that can't interbreed. It's word games. That is why in my original posts I specifically stated "humans evolving from something that was non-human". Evolutionists are notoriously known to be cornered, and then start redefining terms and twisting terms. An example is...."Evolution has a mountain of evidence to support it.".....How can that be true when it can be answered, "yes and no"?

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p135#c2715

LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID!!!!!! IF IT TAKES SCIENTISTS TO DEMONSTRATE IT....IT DIDN'T HAPPEN NATURALLY!!!

THINK MAN THINK!!!

It's much like the scientist that told GOD,"We don't need you anymore. We can now make life out of dirt." GOD replied, "Oh yeah? Show me." The scientist reached down and scooped up some dirt, in which GOD replied, "Wait a minute! Go get your own dirt!!"

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p135#c2721
That is why they call it faith. I have no problem admitting that I take my beliefs in faith. It's the truth. But it isn't blind faith. I can talk for hours on the reasons for my faith. As far as wars, and murder? Atheistic Communist Dictators have murdered millions more than misguided religionists. Both were wrong.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p140#c2816

I don't reject the fossil record nor carbon dating at all. I challenge you to show where I have stated such. that's just more of your imaginary beliefs like Darwinism. I don't reject the fossil record, but they don't support evolution. They are evidence that something once lived and is now dead and we can study what was left behind. I don't reject carbon dating when properly applied. The problem with carbon dating is that it isn't consistent and assumes that the earths conditions have always been as it is now. That probably has not been the case.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p140#c2827

DUH? So it's a fact that either Josephus wrote it, OR SOMEONE ELSE!!!!(shakes head). Jesus existed. Be wrong if you want.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p143#c2880

A fossil has no feathures. What you need to show is a change in flesh. From Reptile flesh to skin, or feathers to scales. That is how a basic kind is defined. By it's flesh. You are assuming that the earths conditions have always been constant, so that c14 dating would be consistent. If Genesis is true, and the firmament was in place, the barimetric pressure would have been twice what it is now, and the oxygene level would be three times higher. THus leaving any date preflood contaminated.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p143#c2883

Archy never was a transtional species. It was just another bird, which by the way, was 250,000 years behind the other birds. At least according to science. I'll bet you one thing. If I look into the eye of a turkey Vulture, I'll see a pathway of no kind. That's just new age jargon.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p144#c2900

Ok and there are no rings around Saturn either. Study the firmament from people who have. Learn grasshopper, learn! Ever heard of those HUGE drawings in South America? A hummingbird, insect, etc.....How do you think they drew them? The book of JOB which is the oldest book of the bible says the morning stars sang to JOB. What causes a radio to recieve? It's crystals. What would this firmament be made of? Crystaline. Do the stars put out cosmic vibrations? Absolutely. So what would have happened when these vibrations hit the crystaline firmament? That's right, the morning stars sang to JOB.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p147#c2964

I've been an amateur astronomer for years also, and yes, you should study the firmament. I think it hilarious that you little darwinists want to claim that the earth is billion of years old, and existed then, just exactly as it is now.....LOL.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p156#c3137

Look at the chest of dinosaurs. Very limited lung capacity, and after the colapse of the firmament, the oxygene level would be drastically reduced, leaving the dinosaurs unable to servive, and died.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p159#c3196

Show me a 4000 year old tree. If the flood truly existed, along with the firmament, and the atmosphere preflood was different, then c14 dating is not reliable past 4000 years, or better, the time of the flood.
He gets what he asks for, then...

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p160#c3232

Tree rings have nothing to do with a time of 4000 years ago. If dinosaurs could breath just fine, why are they gone? And no, it is not proven that birds evolved from reptiles. I'm not hiding from the world, I'm living in the real world.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p164#c3305

Not at all. Christians just want equality. Liberals don't want religion is schools. Fine. remove all religion. Only this isn't the case. Humanism was established as a religion in the early 1960's. Part of the humanist manifesto proclaims evolution as one of it's main tenants. The scientific method demands that a theory be observable testable , and replicatable. The hypothosis that humans evolved from non-humans can not pass this test. Thus it isn't a valid theory, which should not be taught in the science class. So liberals want religion out of schools, yet one of the most unscientific hypothosis ever is being taught in the science class, and is a religious tenent of humanism. Thus religion is being taught in schools and it's the religion of humanism. Christians don't want creationism taught in science. We want humanism out.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p169#c3411

I completely disagree. I wouldn't care if they taught evolution. That things adapt and change, but when they go into darwinism and that humans evolved from non-humans, then they are getting into magic, and not science.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p173#c3485

It would not change chemistry, and it wouldn't change physics, nor anything else. They would continue on just as they are now. The research would continue, along with discoveries. New medicenes would be discovered and invented. Science will not crumble if evolution does. The only thing that will crumble with the colapse of ToE is atheistic worldviews.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p180#c3629

Apes and man don't reproduce either, but you say we are cousins. Humans and apes don't fall into a nested hierarchy either.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p195#c3937

It's already that way. Look at the school shootings and suicides! Much because of the unscientific teachings of evolution who teaches that man is just another animal on this earth and nothing more. How bad does an animal? No remorse at all. Darwinism shouldn't be taught in science classrooms either. It isn't science. It is just teaching religion when it does. Read the humanist manifesto, which by the way, humanism is a religion.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p197#c3969

BEcause a person has a degree, doesn't mean they are educated. One time a professor had a flat tire by a mental hospital. He jacked up his car and began changing it, as a patient watched from behind the fence. As the professor removed the lug nuts, he placed them in the hub cap. As he was getting the spare, he accidently kicked the hub cap and all his lug nuts rolled into a storm drain and disappeared. He couldn't figure out what to do. The patient said from hehind the fence, "Why don't you take one lug nut from the remaining three wheels and put on the one you're replacing until you can get somewhere to buy some more lug nuts?" The professor replied, "Why are you in there? That is brilliant!" The patient replied, "I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid."

Point made.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p202#c4068

You are a good example of the professor. Possibly plenty of book knowledge with no idea of how to apply it.

These two posts are a good indicator of what will become a continuing trend of academic mistrust.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p208#c4198

I'm not against science at all. I'm 100% pro science. I am against atheists who want to twist it to support their false philosophy. Currently "GOD" is as good an explanation as you have.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p266#c5371

I'm not the one taking science that will not pass the scientific method, and proclaiming it as fact. It is a free country, and you can believe anything you want. You can believe that humans evolved from non-humans if you want, but you can't claim it as a scientific conclusion until it is testable and observable. Your belief that humans evolved from non-humans takes just as much faith as creationism does. Neither can be scientifically proven, leaving both on a level playing field.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p275#c5545

Let me know when you atheists start building hospitals, universities, homeless shelters, food pantries, heating oil funds for the poor, Safe havens for drug abusers, orphanages.....etc. You are not our judge. You don't matter.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p278#c5610

There is no reason, or evidence, to think that a designer with the power to create the universe, or the origin of life, needs to use such a useless tool as evolution to do so. The christian creation story, which has not been scientifically disproven, sees it the same way. He created life to reproduce itself after it's own kind.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p278#c5625

I have no problem admitting I accept the flood account. That does not mean I have to be a YEC. The bible doesn't give dates either way. No one knows the age of the earth, I don't claim too either.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p279#c5626

have you ever observed the origin of life? Have you ever observed humans evolving from non-humans? When was the origin of the universe? How old is it? You guys claim to have the answers for these questions, but you've observed and tested nothing.It appears you evolutionists "don't never do science" either.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p279#c5628

There is no other scientific alternative to evolution. Evolution itself isn't scientific. You've got to come up with a viable theory to begin with before you have an alternative. As far as evidence for a designer, explain the complexity of life without a designer. You've not done it yet, so I don't expect it now.

One in a long string of arguments from incredulity...

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p282#c5690

You "KNOW" nothing. You weren't there. You can guess, and I can also say I know things supposedly happened millions of years ago. The truth is, neither of us was there, and you "KNOW" nothing. If you "KNOW" when the universe originated, please tell us HOW it originated, and from what. If you "KNOW" when the earth originated, please tell us how it happened, and then maybe you can also explain how it was that it just so happened to orginate in the exact, and only way, to support carbon based life. Why is the earth just the right distance from the sun, tilted just right to grow food, with a moon that's just right to cause gentle tides to cleanse the oceans, with just the right atmosphere, and just right to adhere to the anthropic princible? You "KNOW" these things, right?

Whoda thunk Marksman11 for a sharpshooter?

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p283#c5708

Christians require no standards. Christian works mean nothing to their salvation. There is no line where you are good enough to go to heaven, and no fault that Jesus didn't die for. The only standard GOD requires is acceptence of Jesus as LORD and Savior. Works has nothing to do with it. There is only one sin between the person in heaven, and the person in hell. No disrespect, but I see you don't understand christianity, or have read the bible.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p289#c5835

Then why do you think christians are any different than any one else? We're all sinners. Sinners are saved by grace and accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, and evidenced by his resurrection. We deal with life and troubles just like everyone else. Why would you think differently?
I still don't understand why you chose to comment on my defence of my views, and not the other persons judgement of me. The only reason I can see is an intolerance to christians.

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/TFA47A72UBQ0T364O/p292#c5888

A gentleman in our church had an infant grandson that was dying from a brain tumor. At a prayer meeting he publically prayed for GOD to take the cancer from his grandson and place it in him. 3 months later he was dead and Adam Cox is now 32 years old.

This last one...just...citation needed...

The ABCs of FAIL

2010-01-08T13:44:00.002-06:00

(This is just so much fail, I had to put it up...and yes, the list unfortunately goes to Z.)

Christian Worldview Examiner's "ABCs of Evolution":

A - absurd, amusing, asinine. That theory of evolution that is trying to be passed off is pretty amusing if you think about it, absurd at best and down right asinine if you think about it too hard.

B - bull hockey, baloney, B.S. Baloney, I say. You expect me to believe that bull hockey. Evolution theory is nothing but B.S. from the getgo.

C - Cinderella, cute - Evolution reminds us of Cinderella - pumpkin seed (don't know where it's from) becomes pumpkin (don't know how that happened) then the pumpkin became a carriage (sans the fairy godmother, of course.)

What you say???

2009-08-13T15:21:00.002-05:00

Infinite Force: "WHY DO YOU CALL YOURSELF A PERSON OF SCIENCE WHEN YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW THE BASICS OF SELF CRITILIZATION?"

A Testament To Fail

2009-07-31T10:52:00.004-05:00

This entire site is a gigantic, creepy stalker shrine to fail. It's like they condensed trillions of terabytes of fail into one webpage. Have fun at home! Try to count the logical fallacies in this one segment!

DarwinsPredictions: "Evolutionists are commonly surprised by the scientific evidences from biology. The evidences do not fit the evolutionary expectations. Evolutionists argue strenuously that these surprises are not problems, but rather are signs of scientific progress. With each new finding, evolutionists say, we learn more about how evolution occurred. Is this true or simply a case of partisanship in science? How can we tell?"

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEECH! Dor sho gha! Their conclusion is so epic!

"The fact of evolution is a necessary consequence of the metaphysical assumptions evolutionists make. Metaphysical assumptions are assumptions that do not derive from science. They are made independent of science. These metaphysical assumptions that evolutionists make would be difficult to defend as necessarily true outside of evolutionary circles, but within evolution their truth is not controversial."

LMAO! The fundies accusing SCIENTISTS of making metaphysical assertions on biodiversity??? BONG!!!!!!!!!!! THEY OWE ME A NEW IRONY METER!!!!!!!

EPIC FAIL! BONG!!!

2009-07-28T12:37:00.003-05:00

Sometimes you just have to see it to believe it.

Infinite Force: "Are you guys still holding on to your MACROevolution?

Question for the both of you? How long have you guys been building on MACROevolution?"

Feklahr: "How long have you been practicing logical fallacies and shooting loaded questions?"

Infinite Force: "What YOU call logical fallacies is natural to me since six years of age.

Shooting loaded questions? Well if this what I think it is I’ve started at 6 or 7 years of problem solving by asking myself question all the time and learning thyself.

Now...you gonna answer my question?"

Epic :headdesk:

2009-07-15T16:17:00.003-05:00

As only "once_more" can: "Well see now; you learned something today. Adaptation can include speciation and still not be evolution.
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High School Science FTW!

2009-06-15T14:06:00.003-05:00

I really love being able to post stuff like this, it makes being a blogger worthwhile. Knowing that an 18 year old student can perform this level of scientific scrutiny just mends so many wounds of scientific ignorance that I often see run rampant. Jessica Terry, this Klingon hails you, "QAPLAH!"

NBC: "When doctors didn't give a Washington state high school student the answers she wanted, she took matters into her own hands.

Eighteen-year-old Jessica Terry, brought slides of her own intestinal tissue into her AP science class and correctly diagnosed herself with Crohn's disease."

Citation Needed FTW!

2009-06-04T09:15:00.003-05:00

Pathlights: "Consider these facts, which were uncovered by Gentry’s research:

(1) The major basement rocks on our planet (granite) did not originate from the gradual cooling of molten lava, but came into being in their present solid form. That fact completely disproves the Big Bang and every evolutionary theory of the origins of stars and our world.

(2) Those major rock formations came into existence within a space of less than three minutes time! Incredible? Yes! But scientific evidence confirms it."

A Picture Is Worth A Thousand FAILS

2009-05-27T14:28:00.003-05:00

Yeah, just take that in. Mmmmm...faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiillllllllllllllllllllll...

So few words...so much FAIL.

2009-05-21T10:44:00.004-05:00

In response to science recently uncovering an interesting and unique fossil, Darwinius masillae, glass bottom boat enthusiast Josh Greenberger decided to get all retarded over at Topix about the situation.

However, nothing on this planet could defeat the FAIL power of this one little gem:

Josh Greenberger: "One fossil is NOT evidence."

*Update!*

Dor sho gha! I should have known better than to underestimate the power of fundies, peep this beaut!!!

GBCE: "fucking atheist scientists, if i had found that fossil, i would have destroyed it. why can't you leave christians alone with your bullshit theory of nothing?"

Guy'cha!!! BONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DIAF

2009-05-14T16:11:00.002-05:00

The stupid just needs to die.

Another Guest: "Even science, and the "strong methodology" you describe are still based on naive realism. You can offer no proof using the scientific method to prove science, or reality is "real" - so why should there be proof of God?

...

Strong atheism also provides its own set of beliefs with no scientific "proof", and could prove to be far more dangerous to society than religion ever has been. Religion is something you have a freedom to follow or not. Moral atheism is something imposed on a populace by the state, with "experts" and "scientists" dispensing edicts supposedly backed up by science, although more likely to be driven by the whims of their political sponsors."

King of FAIL

2009-05-04T16:35:00.003-05:00

If T Rex is King of the Dinosaurs, girasas (and their prophet, Brenda) are the Kings of FAIL!

brenda6: "If you analyze what data we do have, you will see that someone (Jesus Christ, in particular) was an example of what happens to a human being when the girasas descend and begin to live in them. Since Jesus Christ was killed, am I to assume that humanity would reject an invader of this sort? Let's say we could open the Congress to the actions of this kingdom upon just the people here in America. Let's say that Congress votes that we desire this experience and that those who are capable of sharing it and promulgating it and expanding it to others are rewarded by our government because our government has decided that this is a favorable activity to be involved in. Now how does the rest of the world react? How do our citizens who don't want it to happen to them react? Would it result in wars? Would there be inferiority complexes? Would you as a human actively seek this experience over other experiences that are available to us in life? Or do we have to fall victim to this kingdom and do we only allow it to happen when there is no choice or foreseeable way to be excluded? Instead of accepting it and making the best of it, will people become militant and elect to eliminate it from the earth? Will there be a battle for the earth between humans and girasas and will humans die for harboring this kingdom within them? Also, some people may have trouble in the event of change. Would it drive anyone crazy if their government and peers attempted to consider the opportunities given to us by girasas over the opportunity to live autonomous?"

The left side of my body is numb and I smell burnt toast

2009-04-28T12:07:00.001-05:00

Renuo Fides: "The general hypothesis of ID CAN be tested by the scientific method - although not as it pertains to "naturally" occurring life forms."

Just nO RLY?

2009-04-21T08:46:00.002-05:00

marksman11: "Ok and there are no rings around Saturn either. Study the firmament from people who have. Learn grasshopper, learn! Ever heard of those HUGE drawings in South America? A hummingbird, insect, etc.....How do you think they drew them? The book of JOB which is the oldest book of the bible says the morning stars sang to JOB. What causes a radio to recieve? It's crystals. What would this firmament be made of? Crystaline. Do the stars put out cosmic vibrations? Absolutely. So what would have happened when these vibrations hit the crystaline firmament? That's right, the morning stars sang to JOB."

O RLY? - Life forms edition

2009-04-16T09:23:00.002-05:00

John Q. Public: "I interrupted after the professor told us that carbon based life was all that there was. I told him about sulphur based life forms discovered in the Gulf of Mexico, thier proximity to hydrogen sulfied rich natural gas vents on the sea floor and described the tubes these lifeforms looked like. I also insisted this all took place with no light."
(The rest of his rant is as insightful as this snippet is!)

Back to our regularly scheduled FAIL!

2009-04-16T09:09:00.002-05:00

Rick: "Parting the Red Sea doesn't fit too well into your scientific models of gravity, surface tension, etc."

Intelligent Design...OWNED.

2009-04-15T11:27:00.002-05:00

To paraphrase the context for this post, it was found recently in a rather drab "teach both sides/academic freedom/no science should be excluded" post regarding evolution/ID. The following was a response to intelligent design and 'I'm saying "no Scientific studies should be excluded "'.

Nuggin: "And we're saying "No scientific studies have ever been excluded." The problem here is that what you consider a "scientific study" the rest of the world considers "a letter to the editor". Science is rigorous. It has standards. If you don't achieve those standards you aren't doing science."

Take me out to the FAIL game...

2009-04-14T16:12:00.002-05:00

Robert Stevens: "I want to ad the most annoying thing about Atheist is they give The Christians too much of the soap box. The Atheist are like The Red Sox and they believe they could make a deal with The Yankees that in August of 2009 they'll play a 7 games series , and that'll be The World Series. It's a bizarre combination of disrespect and enjoying arguing with them the most. Again no one has the right to boycott any groups scientific studies , I could see debating on what school level should a science be studied or pre-requirements. As a New Ager I like ID with a pre-requirement of evolution studies , from their you have support , counter or completly disregard evolution options. In a University setting disagreeing with you professor does not equal failure. With responcible review boards this coarse could be "The Next big thing." See it'll happen anyway , you're just slowing science down , and possible your very own agenda. You could have your Ausust "World Series" but MLB will archieve The World Series as it happens in October & possible part of November."

FAILvolution

2009-04-09T09:24:00.003-05:00

Dr. Lee Spetner: "Finally, the example of mutations in the B cells of the immune system carries no weight as an example of a mutation that adds information. Although these mutations do add information to the B-cell genome, they cannot be applied to evolution for the reasons I laid out above."

Hooray for fail!

2009-04-08T16:45:00.001-05:00

Robert Stevens: "Make it perfectly clear. Proving ID does not diprove Evolution. It may not even prove God. All it could prove is Extra Terrestrial. God would be E.T unless he stays in the ocean. Let's face it you guys fear ID just like religious zealots once feared you. Just imagine in the 22nd century or so ID crowd will be attempting to silence a more advanced alternative.

And it is fundalmentelism that hold you guys back from seeking alternatives. Face it your science is a slug in the scentific community. Let's watch the cat family and see when they develope wind gliding abilities. Yeah you might get that in 200 years. You should be excited to see something new. Face it you're not into science. You're fanatics."

Cannot...Unsee...THE AGONY!!!

2009-04-07T14:29:00.002-05:00

Holy running fuck, I don't even know what to say about this one!

Robert Stevens: "It's the other way around. Mysticism came first , and scientific method falls under mysticism , and I believe the comments being posted here by Atheist prove my point. Mysticism falls mainly under the science of Charisma. One part of Mysticism is the art of having others believe what I say. The Atheist here live in such a small box. You guys are not interested in science. You're interested in retarding science. Excluding parts of the tree. For the most part , your greatest scientific conversation could be which generation of people stop getting wisdom teeth or stop growing pinkies. Then there's alot of you can't prove that , he should not be aloud to say this. Maybe there are a few topics you like. I would guess stem cell research , ocean life and of cource animal breeding."

FAIL Super-saturation!

2009-03-30T12:42:00.003-05:00

I have never seen so much FAIL so tightly packed together!

honest: "Well Dave, evolution is not a fact, it is still a theory. Until you can take a money and watch it turn into a human that you can call it a fact. Just because a few skulls have been found that seem to support the theory of evolution doesnt mean that it actually occured. For all we know it could have been different species of primates now extinct. If evoulution did occur why is it still not taking place today? As for separation of church and state the original meaning meant by the founders of our great nation was that we would not have a government mandated religion such as if found in some countries in the middle east. They in no way wanted God to be removed from government. Have you ever noticed that Congress starts everyday with a prayer? You Dave are the one who needs some educating. Both evolution and creationalism are theories. To be a fact you need irrefutable evidence which neither has. My best advice for you is to ask God yourself when you get to the other side. Unless of course you are an athiest that your just out of luck arent you"

O RLY? U FAIL!

2009-03-20T15:21:00.001-05:00

HEY MIDDLE AMERICA (again...): "so do you think that the accepted big bang theory was evolution...it sounds just like the biblical accounts of creation"

Irreducibly FAIL...SQUARED!

2009-03-20T11:19:00.003-05:00

Here's a double dose from a moron on Topix! Dor sho gha!

HEY MIDDLE AMERICA: "these silly questions are nothing but a diversion from the fact that you can't refute the statement that darinism cannot explai the irreducibly complex systems that make up cells and as such by darwin's own words:

" if one could find an organ or structure that could not have been formed by "numerous, successive, slight modifications," his "theory would absolutely break down" (Darwin 1859, 191).

and irreducibly complex systems are indeed a structure

so take up the challenge because so far nobody has ever produced a paper published in the jme that details how such complex systems were built using a darwinian framework"

HEY MIDDLE AMERICA: "that's not how it works...because the fable of evolution has stated that evolution of such irreducibly complex systems must occur for the theory to be valid it is up to the proponents of said fable to produce the needed proof to back it up...the mistake you and your ilk made was to prematurely declare evolution fact when it was never really proven in the first place"

QAPLAH SHO GHA!!!

2009-03-18T16:19:00.001-05:00

Yep, the much talked about flying car is finally here. Terrafugia has manufactured a two-seater called the Transition. And, in 30 seconds, it can be transformed from an extremely ugly automobile into an honest-to-goodness plane that goes about 115 mph.

THE FAIL HURTS!!!

2009-03-18T10:48:00.003-05:00

#14 is my favourite. BTW, that whole site is just filled with FAIL fun!

Missing Universe Museum: "Students, give this test to your teachers. When they fail it, ask them why they are teaching this nonsense! Teachers, give this test to your students if you really want them to know the truth about evolution! 1. Which evolved first, male or female?
2. How many millions of years elapsed between the first male and first female?
3. List at least 9 of the false assumptions made with radioactive dating methods.
4. Why hasn't any extinct creature re-evolved after millions of years?
5. Which came first: ...the eye, ...the eyelid, ...the eyebrow, ...the eye sockets, ...the eye muscles, ...the eye lashes, ...the tear ducts, ...the brain's interpretation of light?
6. How many millions of years between each in question 5?
7. If we all evolved from a common ancestor, why can't all the different species mate with one another and produce fertile offspring?
8. List any of the millions of creatures in just five stages of its evolution showing the progression of a new organ of any kind. When you have done this, you can collect the millions of dollars in rewards offered for proof of evolution!
9. Why is it that the very things that would prove Evolution (transitional forms) are still missing?
10. Explain why something as complex as human life could happen by chance, but something as simple as a coin must have a creator. (Show your math solution.)
11. Why aren't any fossils or coal or oil being formed today?
12. List 50 vestigial or useless organs or appendages in the human body.
13. Why hasn't anyone collected the millions of dollars in rewards for proof of evolution?
14. If life began hundreds of millions of years ago, why is the earth still under populated?
15. Why hasn't evolution duplicated all species on all continents?"

FAIL Breeds FAIL

2009-03-17T15:44:00.002-05:00

joe: "if you can cite a site whose perpose if to attack creactionist then any site posting is valid. People can start qouting the bible. Do you really think that talkorigins.org is a legit source? For that matter is any .org a legit source"

Just...no.

2009-03-16T16:49:00.002-05:00

Brenda6: "The seven races cover the entire period of man's existence on the earth. We all know of dinosaurs today, but 100 years ago when Blavatsky wrote THE SECRET DOCTRINE, they were a rarity. The human kingdom began its descent into matter, so she reports, as an etheric race. The first race hovered above the earth which was then inhabited by dinosaurs. How were our physical bodies developed? "

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I know this technically isn't "Science Fail"...but...yeah.

Iowa-1, FAIL-0

2009-03-16T14:01:00.005-05:00

Iowa Gives The Thumbs Down to the Discovery Institute:

The “Evolution Academic Freedom Act,” based on the model language promoted by the Discovery Institute, never even made it out of the relevant subcommittee in the Iowa legislature.

Science AND Math FAIL!

2009-03-13T09:24:00.002-05:00

Todd Wood: "Anyone who knows me at all knows that I break down creationist biology into four main components: design, natural evil, systematics, speciation, and biogeography."
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(How many components did YOU count? BONG!!!)

Take this FAIL and shove it!

2009-03-12T14:14:00.002-05:00

Barb: "For ID evidence: how do we get the sexes, sexual reproduction, organs, self-healing skin, hearts that beat for a lifetime without any external energy source, our computer-like brains, our eyes and the ability to see colors?"

Scientific defense FAIL!

2009-03-11T12:33:00.002-05:00

This entire article is chock-full of FAIL, but the good old "Second Law of Thermodynamics Fail" might be one of my most favorite of all time. (BTW, it's called "the sun", ignoramus.)

Edward N. Chase: "The Second Law of Thermodynamics is often stated as the law of increasing entropy: "A natural process always takes place in such a direction as to cause an increase in the entropy of the universe." (John Williams, "Modern Physics," Page 210). The effect of this law is that unless there is a purposeful source of energy operating in a system, the various parts, molecules, etc., become less and less organized and more and more random."

Yes, there really are this many people that FAIL at biology

2009-03-09T10:01:00.002-05:00

voicecrying: "If Genesis is true, we are descendants of an incestuous relationship. However, if evolution is true, we are descendants of a bestial relationship - the first man/woman to evolve had to mate with a sub-human (i.e. beast) partner of the opposite sex."

Fooled you!

2009-03-02T12:59:00.003-06:00

Ha ha! Still updating! There is too much science fail to stop at Iowa retardation! LOOK!

happypioneer: "IS EVOLUTION REALLY SCIENTIFIC, THEN EXPLAIN THIS- The "scientific method" is as follows: Observe what happens: based on those observations, form a theory as to what may be true; test the theory by further observations and by experiments; and watch to see if the predictions based on the theory are fulfilled. Is this the method followed by those who believe in and teach evolution? Hardly, if they did, they would be able to explain and provide scientific evidence about how the first cell was nutured. Until science can prove this EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY. AND SCIENTIST CAN NOT EXPLAIN THIS IN ANY SCIENTIC WAY.(EVOLUTION FACT---------NOT YET)."

BONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Iowa HF 183)

2009-02-27T12:38:00.005-06:00

I am so dismayed by this news, I am not going to update again until the outcome of this bill.

Thanks to Rep. Rod Roberts, R-Carroll, we have this cute little mess here in Iowa now:

Evolutionary freedom

Teachers in public schools and postsecondary institutions who objectively present ideas on evolution, creationism, intelligent design or other information "relevant to the full range of scientific views" would be protected from discipline, denial of tenure, termination or other discrimination under HF 183 introduced by Rep. Rod Roberts, R-Carroll. The bill also requires students be evaluated based on their understanding of course materials and not penalized for subscribing to a particular position of view regarding chemical or biological evolution.

Read more:

http://www.amestrib.com/articles/2009/02/25/ames_tribune/news/doc49a58285c440e717982265.txt

http://www.iowaatheists.org/node/62

http://scienceblogs.com/strangerfruit/2009/02/iowa_faculty_on_the_evolution.php

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Update: The DI can suck it!

This person is firmly perched on the "I-Fail Tower"

2009-02-27T11:05:00.003-06:00

Tayune: "Meanwhile, if you know anything about Genetics at all - you'd know it actually disproves the theory of evolution. Human evolution at least. Animals are different than humans after all."

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BTW, have you ever noticed how Science Fail is often coupled with Spelling Fail, Grammar Fail, Composition Fail...

O RLY?

2009-02-26T16:00:00.002-06:00

Robert Stevens: "When i say everything is a science , I mean EVERYTHING , there are even those that now claim masturbation has sciences , folks I kid you not. If I went on with expaination it may be considered spamming."

Not technically science, but still FAIL

2009-02-26T11:39:00.002-06:00

Jim Ryan: "I started telling teachers that kids need to use body and mind together in the learning process, because of how much faster they will learn, how much smartewr they will get and how much happier they'd be, since about 1997--on-line. About a year later I started hearing of a teacher here or there starting to do what I was telling them."

Just...no.

2009-02-26T10:06:00.002-06:00

queen kira: "The layering of the Earth's crust is due to hydrologic sorting from the Flood. The fossils are found in the order in which they were buried, not the order in which they "evolved"."

Sooooomewhere, over the FAILbow...

2009-02-26T09:09:00.002-06:00

In response to: If a rainbow is God's Promise that he will never again flood the Earth,
Does this mean that light refraction and the color spectrum didn't exist before Noah?

Mr. John: "In those times the atmosphere is not the same with what it is today. There was no vapor in the atmosphere to cause the refraction of light."

Noah's Ark and the Great FAIL!

2009-02-24T15:12:00.002-06:00

[In response to evidence that large wooden ships simply do not work]

OrangeWIZARD: "What do ships have? A hull.

What snapped on the wooden ship? The hull.

Does the ark have a hull? No.

The. Ark. Is. A. Hollow. Rectangular. Prism."

Steaming Pile of Fail

2009-02-24T08:33:00.002-06:00

Raymond H. Kocot: "Because confirmable observations and generating experimental data are impossible for unique events like life's origin and macroevolution theory, world-famous evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr prompts evolutionists to construct historical narratives to try to explain evolutionary events or processes. In other words, stories are all evolutionists can muster to support macroevolution theory. If macroevolution theory, which must rest on faith in a story and is considered to be scientific, why not the creation story. With that in mind, it is no wonder the molecules-to-man debate has persisted for 150 years."

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Now, even with as FAIL as that was, there was WIN in the comments section! QAPLAH!

tricoteuse: "I used to be the Op Ed of a community college newspaper. I wrote most of my editorials the night of layout, in about an hour. I still managed to be more accurate and well-informed, and present more (accurate and reliable) evidence and support for my positions than this sad little piece in a "real paper." COMMUNITY COLLEGE. Do they let just ANYONE write just ANYTHING these days? Do they even read this stuff before printing it? "Opinion" doesn't mean "load of unsupported bollocks I'm printing just because I can," at least not in any remotely respectable publication. (Again, we did better than this at COMMUNITY COLLEGE for pete's sake.) I don't really need to comment on the specific glaring examples of Epic Fail in this piece because most of the comments preceding mine have already done so beautifully. So I'll say no more. But seriously. EPIC fail."

Ladies and gentlemen, they felt that burn at the Alamo. Dor sho gha!

This is a fail that needs to die.

2009-02-23T15:00:00.003-06:00

I see this argument from ignorant fucktards more than I care to say. It needs to die.

Sir Lucario: "Well "logically", according to the rabid religion-haters' little theory of evolution, gays would have been weeded out by natural selection. If they are born the way they are, and they can't "get it up" in the presence of a woman, then they cannot procreate."

Some people fail out of general principle

2009-02-23T14:29:00.002-06:00

Ray Martinez: "Immutability is not harmed by artificial breeding. Immutability refers to species that exist in the undisturbed wild. Wherever a new species is found----that is where it was introduced by a direct act of special creation ex materia. There is no other way for species to appear."

This literally made my eyes hurt.

2009-02-20T14:32:00.005-06:00

I could have chosen any number of paragraphs in this long, droning article (complete with atrocious punctuation to the point where it becomes unreadable), but the selection provided should give a good glimpse at the Science Fail.

Adam McLean: "The central point within our consciousness, our "spirit" in the hermetic sense, can now be seen as an entity that can work to control quantum probabilities. To our "spirits" our brain is a quantum sea providing a rich realm in which it can incarnate and manifest patterns down into the electrical/chemical impulses of the nervous system. (It has been calculated that the number of interconnections existing in our brains far exceeds the number of atoms in the whole universe - so in this sense the microcosm truly mirrors the macrocosm!). Our "spirit" can through quantum borrowing momentarily press a certain order into this sea and this manifests as a thought, emotion, etc. Such an ordered state can only exist momentarily, before our spirit or point of consciousness is forced to jump and move to other regions of the brain, where at that moment the pattern of probability waves for the particles in these nerve cells, can reflect the form that our spirit is trying to work with."

Fail-sil record!

2009-02-20T10:19:00.002-06:00

JPr: "I don't believe EVERY fossil FITS perfectly with the evolution theory. I can't look them up right now (too lazy). But, not every fossil FITS with the theory of evolution. Yes, maybe evolutionist don't use the term of missing links, but doesn't mean that there is none missing links that have been found.(At least you know what i mean by missing links.) And I don't believe evolution was just done like crazy. I believe, and is true that what Darwin observed were micro evolutions. Not actual evolutions how they are defined now."

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This gives me a chance to vocalize something I have noticed on Topix. It seems a disproportionate amount of the "Evolution Critics" that post the really, REALLY inane uneducated babble are from North Carolina. What this means, I don't know. However, it is an unsettling trend.

THE STUPID HURTS!-Redux

2009-02-19T11:45:00.004-06:00

TheBundo: "Mammoths quick-frozen with undigested tropical vegitation in their stomachs? Again, explained in written HISTORY. The earth was surrounded by a water vapor that gave a more even temperature, a true greenhouse effect. When it was let loose, it flooded the earth, exposed the polar extremities to the cold of space where it was further, on average, from the sun, as we still see, and got cold fast. The lower spots ended up sinking further, becoming the oceans and seas. The higher spots became even bigger mountains, with severely tilting strata. The dinosaur bones when down under the seas and where covered with silt running off the higher areas to the lower as the water retreated. So many things man scrambled around trying to explain are all easily explained by the flood."

How Can I Have A Blog Called "Science Fail"...

2009-02-17T13:00:00.005-06:00

...without Kent "Dr. Dino" Hovind?

Here is Soldier for Salvation's take on Hovind "science": "Evolutionists, what is your answer for how the mammoths got frozen in place?

Here is an explanation from a REAL scientist.

An ice meteor came flying through space and crashed into Earth. Due to the Earth's magnetic field, all of the ice fell and gathered on the poles (top and bottom). Also, the mammoths were instantly frozen in place. Also, the remnants flew out into space and created the polar caps of Mars and the icy rings of Saturn (what's your explanation for how those got there?).

If the mammoths got frozen in place, which they did, it couldn't have happened gradually. They would have decomposed. But they got frozen practically in place and instantly. This raises suspicion."

I am speechless.

2009-02-13T16:44:00.002-06:00

Chicago Guy: "Would you be willing to accept Evolution if humans weren't part of the fossil record?"

FAIL...IN...SPAAAAAACE!

2009-02-13T11:37:00.002-06:00

Hugo: "Atheist do you know if the moon was a centimeter closer to Earth we would have tidal waves? How can you not see someone put it there for a purpose? Even athiest can understand an engineering pincipal?"

Some people fail more than others

2009-02-13T09:40:00.002-06:00

I am not going to post the entire ranting diatribe here, but I will give you a select nugget that should give you enough insight to understand this person's view on the human species.

Ranting, incoherent fucktard emails Pharyngula: "When these people left there was a large group of men who took off and ended up in Africa. Some of these men went to Borneo and caught female Orangutans and sailed across to South America and had sex with the female Orangutans and created the Indian. And the men who stayed in Africa caught female Gorillas and had sex with them and created the Black man. When scientists found the bones they thought we came from a female Chimpanzee. But it wasn't a natural evolution it was a man made evolution. That' where Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Orangutan man, Yeti and the Skunk Ape comes from. They are half man and half Gorilla and half man and half Orangutan. When scientists find drawings in caves they were put there by Bigfoot and the Orangutan man. Scientists are either finding freaks of nature or their making mistakes or their findings things and they just don't know what they are."

How Much Science Fail Can YOU Fit In One Post?

2009-02-10T15:15:00.002-06:00

Gomenasai: "as far as walking through walls, I believe the Lord Jesus's glorified body literally oscillates at a very high frequency. A rough comparison could be how visible light (in the electromagnetic spectrum) operates at a lower frequency than x-rays or gamma rays and cannot pass through a solid wall like the other 2 (although I realize radio does, faster doesnt necesarily facilitate this atribute, rather, a the "right" frequency to accomplish this. Its said though that love and happieness constitute higher vibrational states in us, not nearly what im talking about tho with Jesus) Could be wrong but the Lord certainly has made a reallly strange universe and frequency is one of the weirdest (and perhaps most prevalent, as I heard someone mention everything being product of a strings vibration, per se)"

A Fail That Brings Me To A Serious Question

2009-02-10T10:28:00.002-06:00

NephilimFree: "Your belief in evolution is absolutely irrelevant to its voracity. You can test it by trying to disbelieve the theory of gravity. Atheists aren't building anything. There are not enough of the to build anything. They create in their mind the perceptiion that they are doing so, then they believe it. All based upon a rejection of Jesus Christ. Guess what. The mathematics and astonomical explainations of the secular world are fashioned to provide an alternative to the truth. The Eath is not moving. Time-lapse star photography proves it."

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OK, if your eyes are done bleeding from the drivel, we arrive at my serious question:

IS THERE ANY ACTUAL VALID, NON-THEISTIC CRITICISM/REFUTATION OF EVOLUTION?

If anyone has the answer, please let me know. You don't have to register to post here, and I do not moderate ANY comments. From my experience, bar none, all "criticisms" of The Theory of Evolution are theistic in origin. If anyone has concrete evidence to the contrary, I would LOVE to see it.

Logic Fail

2009-01-29T12:57:00.002-06:00

(In response to Evolution being taught in public schools...)

Fek (myself): WHY DO YOU EXPECT A SECULAR GOVERNMENT TO FUND YOUR RELIGIOUS AGENDA???

simply me:

"Well, yes. The seculars want us to fund abortion. Many Christian families homeschool their children, which is beginning to impact the funding of public schools. It should be a state to state issue. Hey you know nothing about me...as far as lazy, you are way off base there:) My Children are not in the public school system. I am a teacher in one. Vouchers? yes they will be implemented, but at the cost of the public schools...still not every child will be able to supplement the difference in tuition and the children who cannot will be left in public schools with less funding."

Erasmus05:

"What does this have to do with teaching religion in science class?

Are Hitler references next on your list? "

simplyme:

Absolutely nothing, but it is a normal defense to a controversial question. And I am right.

THE STUPID HURTS!

2009-01-28T15:55:00.003-06:00

Jorge:

" - by your own use of the term - you confirm it is a theory. Science has very few facts as such - other than data. Biology has many theories but almost no laws or "facts". "

That's not how science works.

2009-01-28T13:26:00.002-06:00

Robotzombie:

"Thats kind of a double standard is'nt it? Requiring proof and information (which science has in spades) while you yourself present none. There is more evidence of events in the Bible happening than anything in science because science is mostly just observations and theories that we think may be true. Scientific laws are the only things that can be proven, theories are simply there to conjure up an explanation."

May the Fail be with you

2009-01-28T09:25:00.002-06:00

supersport:
"Well, with a hologram, everything that happens within one area of a hologram affects other parts of the hologram.....there is thus a "non-locality" there. Within a hologram, all of the tiny parts, though part of the whole, actually have the whole in them. as far as DNA goes, information creates fractals -- waves of potential....your dna is actually a destabilized system, ready to move, all-for-one, one-for-all....with destablization within the genome, there is a capability self-organization upon shifts in consciousness, which can create complexity out of chaos....You can read more about DNA and holograms here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ-D5JJzYe"

WIN!

2009-01-28T08:58:00.002-06:00

I have the biggest man-crush on Fossil Bob, and I am not even ashamed to admit it.

Fossil Bob (in response to Jimmy Boy inanity):

"I suppose that, ever since someone told you about automobile horsepower, you've been wondering how we keep all those horses fed..."

He stuck the landing, folks! THAT'S A BURN!

O RLY?

2009-01-28T08:56:00.002-06:00

Good ol' Jimmy boy, again:
"Theory--most all that speak here seem to agree that our moon was caused by a chunk of space debris that impacted earth. So tell us, why is the moons body in a spherical shape? Why is it that the earth and moon could not have been formed at the same time and in the same way? Common sense dictates that all the bodies in space are just differing amounts of the same debris. Why is it that there are moons orbiting planets and stars all through-out our universe and they all seem sphryical and yet, I can't recall one moon looking like it is just a chunk of rock that has been blaster away from the planet it orbits? Has any scientist observed a piece of a planet being blown-out by a collision and seen the chunk become a moon--with its spherical shape intact?"

ASE called, you fail.

2009-01-28T08:49:00.002-06:00

Jim Ryan:

"Consider the core, the mantle and the crust. How many underground rivers can science plot, as to their exact route? I sure hope scientists consider radiant heating and cooling? As the heat from the core rises, surely the underground rivers and such pull heat away from the surrounding rocks, as a radiator cools an auto. If not, it's possible that the heat would keep building until the earth litterally cooked. However, it's likely the oceans and such draw away heat as well. If rocks don't have ways of cooling, they retain that heat. The core must shed the heat."

Hulk fail :[

2009-01-27T14:46:00.002-06:00

Infinite Force:

"We have wisdom tooth because we use/used them to crack hard objects, and chew hard foods in the past/present. When I crack a wall-nut with my teeth I use my back molars because leverage back there is stronger then the front teeth If you disagree then try cracking a wall-nut with your front teeth. The only reason we use them less now has nothing to do with evolution. It’s because we don’t use them as much because we SUBSTITUTE the cracking of hard objects with MAN-MADE TOOLS instead of our teeth.

Ask any body builder and they will tell you when they use their muscles a lot their bones get’s larger. When our ancestors use their teeth to break, sharpen and eat tougher foods they used the muscles and because of this their muscles, wisdom teeth and jaws got bigger. The less we used them the jaws got smaller just like the less a body builder life weights his/her bones get’s smaller."

O noes! TV getz u!

2009-01-27T12:46:00.003-06:00

Jsmythe:

"I have tried plugging in a microphone into a speaker socket and it works as a speaker. I have tried plugging a speaker into a microphone socket and it works as a microphone. I'm pretty sure that their plan is to watch us through our tv and maybe even tell us what to do. With an RFID chip installed in our bodies required to buy and sell they can just turn it off. The ultimate form of slavery and control."

It has to start somewhere...

2009-01-27T11:15:00.000-06:00

In my online travels, I come across travesties of scientific injustice. People that watch too much tv and read too little often find themselves proclaiming scientific evidence that will shake the foundations of modern understanding. However, it is always bullcrap of the highest magnitude. I am not going to sit here and do point by points, I am just going to post the ignorance in all of it's glory.

I present simply, "Science Fail". Actual living, breathing people posted the nonsense I will present, and expected others to take it seriously.

Jim Ryan:

"--as the water builds behind a dam several hundred miles long, almost 4,000 feet wide and somne 175 meters deep, magma from the earths core must move in an opposing direction to compensate, and as it moves, it will cause the magnetic field to shift more--as the magma is forced in an opposing manner--outside the core of the planet, or so I believe--as one thing affects another--which affects another and so on."